jesse
@ February 23, 2009


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Before we get to our winners and losers, some winners and losers from last night.

Winners
Exploitation of Indian children by Hollywood
Adorable Japanese men
Homos
The Holocaust (again)
Cuba Gooding Jr.

Losers
Early bedtimes
David Fincher's patience for this shit
My boner (thanks, Sophia Loren!)
Anyone who listened to my predictions

Tier 1: Full Retard
Kevin: 26 points
Rose: 28 points
Greg: 29 points
Jesse: 32 points

Never go full retard. Collectively 1/4 on Best Actress, 0/4 on Supporting Actress, 0/4 on Foreign Language Film, 2/8 on the Screenplay awards. Jesus Christ, only one of us figured out that the costume drama would win Best Costume!

Tier 2: The Non-Contenders

Daytrader: 35 points
The Suze: 35 points
Krista: 35 points
Steph: 36 points
Jim: 37 points

Special props to Daytrader for being the only one of two players to nail the top 4 categories.  Which brings us to...

Tier 3: The Mother-Loving Champ

Elisa: 47 points

This was a beat-down like I have never seen in an Oscar pool.  This thing was over before we even got to the top categories.  4/4 on the top 4 awards, 7/8 on the top 8 awards (throwing in the supporting acting categories and the two screenplay awards).  Elisa, you truly are the Mistress of Media.

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Jim and I share some final thoughts on the ceremony, the winners, and the losers after the jump.



Jim's take

Alrighty, it's almost midnight, and I've lost yet another Oscar pool. I couldn't even beat my girlfriend. [Elisa: "Of course you couldn't, because I'm awesome. There was no way in hell you were going to beat me."]

The most important thing: three and a half hours or so for the ceremony.... could it have been shorter? Well, did we need the Beyonce musical number? Why can't we start the Oscars at 6somethingish, like the Super Bowl?  That would give Mickey Rourke like an extra three hours to get drunk after the ceremony.

Things I liked: 

The awards for actors and actresses, with past winners each giving a little talk to each of the nominees. That was a nice innovation to the ceremony. The only suggestion I have -- next year, make sure you do the same for director (and include Marty Scorsese) and make sure you get Jack Nicholson as well. Seriously, wouldn't Jack have been the perfect person to talk to Mickey Rourke.... Ben Kingsley, really?

Hugh Jackman. Hey, he's not Billy Crystal, and his little "I made this in my garage" opening bit was fun. I like the idea of using song & dance thespians as hosts. Next year?  Keep with the Hugh, keep with the accent. Hugh Laurie.

The Slumdog Train. I got this email mid-awards from a Mr. Jesse Craft: "Okay, so was Slumdog really this much better than every movie that came out last year? This is just an absolute demolition."  My answer was, essentially, that it was better than any movie that wasn't titled "The Wrestler" (more on that in the next section)  But it won the awards that it deserved to win. Yeah, it wasn't my personal preference for Best Picture, but it wasn't "Crash" or "A Beautiful Mind" or "Forrest Gump." The feel-good film is the best thing that England has done for India since India Pale Ale and tea. You know what, I take those former comparison back. You know what "Slumdog Millionaire" wasn't?  Let me tell you: "The English Patient." Elaine Benice was right: The English Patient sucks. Slumdog does not. Wonderful film, and it was nice to see Danny Boyle and its cast so giddy throughout the ceremony.

Sean Penn. Kudos for the shout-out to Mickey Rourke. Classy -- I've loved him as an actor, but always thought he was probably an asshole of a person. Glad he took time out to mention Mickey in his speech. (Notice, he did not thank his wife, but he did thank Rourke)

Man on Wire guy giving a shout-out to Werner Herzog. In the words of Stan Lee, 'nuff said.

Dislikes

The camera work during the In Memoriam montage. Note to the production crew: Wide shot of QL singing, DISSOLVE TO the big screen of dead people immediately, before Cyd Charisse. Keep that shot for the rest of the montage. We want to see the clips of those who have passed, not your fancy-schmancy camerawork.

The Snubbing of The Wrestler. Remember those MTV music awards happened like a few years ago and Justin Timberlake won for "Cry Me a River" over Johnny Cash's "Hurt"?  He went up on stage and started screaming. "This is a travesty. I grew up listening to Johnny Cash, and the people giving out these awards have insulted him" or something like that. That's how I feel when the best film since I don't know what... let's just say Pulp Fiction* for argument's sake, gets snubbed for nominations and then leaves Mickey Rourke Oscarless. Thank goodness he won at the Independent Spirit Awards.


Seriously, any time an actor talks about anal sex with wrestling groupies at an awards show, he deserves a fucking Oscar.

Best Picture Clips: What was up with showing Apocalypse Now footage during the Frost/Nixon clip? And shouldn't they have showed that Gump clip during the Buttontage? This was stupid -- just show clips from the nominated films.

Didja Notice?

- How peeved David Fincher looked?  Like "I made Se7en and Zodiac and Fight Club, and this is the movie I get nominated for? Why didn't someone tell me that the screenplay was just a rehash of Gump?"

- The general mood when the family of Poor Dead Heath Ledger was accepting his award?  How amazing would it have been if Downey Jr. had won?

- Speaking of which.. Cuba Gooding Jr. -- he must have been ecstatic when he got that phone call, right?  Seriously. Boat Trip. Snow Dogs. Chill Factor (co-starring Skeet Ulrich) -- this is his post-Jerry Maguire career. This was his biggest moment since he caught that touchdown on Monday Night Football for the Arizona Cardinals.

- How tiny Joel Grey is?  Two things I learned: He is Jennifer Grey's father. He was on Buffy, season 5. [Trivia courtesy of my smart girlfriend, and OC pool winner Elisa Keller]

* If you put a gun to my head, I'd say it tied with There Will Be Blood. TIED, damn you.

Jesse's take

You know what? I hated the thing they did for the actor and actress awards. I hated it. Talk about a waste of time! It took a solid hour to give out those four awards while I waited for the Academy to lovingly stroke the balls, head, and shaft of each nominee. In other stroking the nominee news: they re-organized the award order this year to be in roughly the same order as the production of a movie - screenplay to pre-production (art direction, costume design) to post-production (film editing, visual effects). But all this was, of course, book-ended by the actor awards. Because we all know that, really, no matter what the Academy says about the importance of everyone on the movies, we must all bow down to the mighty actor.

I agree with your assessment of Hugh Jackman. Is there any chance we could convince Marvel to make the next X-Men movie a musical?

I completely underestimated the momentum of Slumdog this year (as reflected in my poor showing in the standings). I haven't checked, but I'm almost positive that it won every award it was nominated for. And here is a reason David Fincher might have been pissed: has any movie ever LOST more awards it was nominated for than Button? It won two awards (visual effects and makeup) which were basically the same award: the Brad Pitt looks old award.

Conversely, I think we both underestimated the degree to which the Academy did not like the Wrestler. Penelope Cruz in Vicky Christina Barcelona? Really? She looks like a horse with large breasts. I was not surprised by Sean Penn's win, however - as Sean Penn so astutely noted, the Academy really is a bunch of commie, homo-loving sons of bitches (I'm not on TV so I can complete his thought for him).

Heath Ledger's family, particularly his dad, was pretty great. I thought he was composed, understated, and just incredibly classy. Brought a measure of dignity to what could have been a self-congratulatory wank-fest.

And now, I'd like to end this e-mail with a completely unnecessary montage about e-mails!

Jim's response

You hated it? Really? Even with your old-old girlfriend, Eve Marie Saint, being one of the presenters? I'd rather have them spend an hour on that that then spend 45 minutes on something banal and boring as performance clips and tiny square boxes.

(I made the Wolverine: The Musical joke last night. I'm sure you did too.) How come neither of us mentioned Ben Stiller's fake-beard? He looked like a Hasidic meth lab worker, as Natalie Portman so astutely pointed out. That got the biggest laugh of the evening from me, for obvious reasons. (My happiest moment, however, was the Japanese dude who said "Domo Arigato Mr. Roboto")

Button was nominated for what, 13? And it won 3? So 10 for 13.... didn't The Color Purple go 0 for 11? (Johnny Wikipedia has confirmed those numbers, also according to Johnny W -- Slumdog lost out in one category -- Best Sound Editing)

I know I've said this ad naseum, but time is going to prove the Academy wrong on The Wrestler. Fast forward 30 years (or just look into Nic Cage's magic Knowing time capsule) -- The Wrestler will be held in the same regard that Raging "I Lost to Ordinary People" Bull is held today. Mark me.

One last thing... Sam Bottoms, who passed away in December, was not shown during the 'In Memoriam' section (or I missed him, but I was paying pretty close attention) I know he's not as famous as his brother Timothy, but he was in The Last Picture Show, Apocalypse Now, The Outlaw Josey Wales, and Seabiscuit. Wonder why they left him out?

Oh, and for Adam -- they also omitted Estelle "Stop or My Mom Will Shoot!" Getty.....

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Sweet!!! I was third. I'll take that.

I read that Jack Nicholson declined to be a presenter this year, and then by complete coincidence they didn't give him any screentime.

Also my initial prediction was "'Slumdog' for everything it's nominated for, 'don't care' for everything else" which I think would have actually given me more points.

Woo hoo!

As Jim can testify, I love to win! . . . This success undoubtedly means I will never win another pool on ObscureCraft.net or otherwise.

I'm sure i have no idea what you guys mean by 'late bedtimes' and 'they should start earlier'... We didn't even start watching until 6 and we still got to bed by 10.* What a curious case.

* Consider relocating; homos and commies abound!

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